Sometimes It’s Not the Post, It’s the Conversation.

August 13, 2006


p. The absolute best session I attended at OSCON 2006 was the “PHP Lightening Talks”. Some of the presentations were interesting, others were hilarious. Theo Schlossnagle’s “Why PHP Sucks”: was both. Theo is a facilitating to sit and listen to, as you’ll soon see when I post my interview with him. He’s also quite funny when he wants to be. His presentation was interesting. It was part tongue-in-cheek and part dead serious but Theo left it to you to decide which was which.

p. Chris Schiflett, who works with Theo at “OmniTI”:, “blogged about it”: when Theo posted his slides. His was just a pointer for those who didn’t see Theo’s original announcement. However something interesting happened on Chris’ blog, a conversation broke out.

p. Many of the people who attended the talk (Ed, Terry, Luke, Aaron and Ben were the ones I recognized) chipped in with their two cents. Terry even posted a “spin-off blog entry”: Many interesting points were made, some barbs were slung at Java and the appropriate amount of scatological humor was posted. (Appropriate for this group.) All stemming from a speech that lasted 5 minutes.

p. Picking my favorite post is a tough choice because there are some great points and posts. However, I think “Ben Ramsey”: posted my favorite quote that I can print on a PG rated blog:

bq. “but it’s not like PEAR is suddenly a turd floating in the bowl of PHP development”

p. The talk was good, don’t get me wrong, but the conversation it inspired is much more interesting.

p. =C=

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About Cal Evans

Many moons ago, at the tender age of 14, Cal touched his first computer. (We're using the term "computer" loosely here, it was a TRS-80 Model 1) Since then his life has never been the same. He graduated from TRS-80s to Commodores and eventually to IBM PC's. For the past 10 years Cal has worked with PHP and MySQL on Linux OSX, and when necessary, Windows. He has built on a variety of projects ranging in size from simple web pages to multi-million dollar web applications. When not banging his head on his monitor, attempting a blood sacrifice to get a particular piece of code working, he enjoys building and managing development teams using his widely imitated but never patented management style of "management by wandering around". Cal is currently based in Nashville, TN and is gainfully unemployed as the Chief Marketing Officer of Blue Parabola, LLC. Cal is happily married to wife 1.28, the lovely and talented Kathy. Together they have 2 kids who were both bright enough not to pursue a career in IT. Cal blogs at and is the founder and host of Day Camp 4 Developers

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5 Responses to “Sometimes It’s Not the Post, It’s the Conversation.”

  1. ramsey Says:

    Yeah, I always make it a habit to leech off of everyone else, Ed especially.

  2. _____anonymous_____ Says:

    Apparently the talk was pretty funny:

  3. admin Says:


    Sorry, it wasn’t Ben’s fault. I Just glanced over your post directly above Ben’s and missed that you were the originator of that quote. :)

    Terry. Thanks for pointing that out. Oh and thanks for the photo tips over on Flickr. :)


  4. coj Says:

    Ramsey’s always trying to steal my flow.

  5. _____anonymous_____ Says:

    Surprising, I wasn’t the one who took the discussion into scatalogy. :-)

    In any case, you attributed the quote wrong. It was Ed Finkler who said it originally. Ben Ramsey highlighted it.